I’m super picky with companies! Why and how I’ll choose my summer internship.
Update: I’ve received over a dozen emails and phone calls from companies who want me as an intern this summer. I’m inching towards the final phases of my search, and plan on making a final decision by the evening of May 1st. Thanks for all of your support and encouragement!
The past few days have been intense! In a nutshell, I’ve been looking at an internship — yes, a JOB with a real COMPANY. It’s come to my stark realization that I never thought about working for a company not so much because I thought corporations were dumb, but because there are few places that would allow me to explore my own projects. In other words, I would only work for a company that allowed me to be an entrepreneur within the company. While there aren’t many companies with such a culture, I’ve started to look at a few companies that prosper on having creative and fast moving “intra-preneurs.” My partial list includes Ning, Six Apart, PBWiki, and Ustream.
Of course, being that I’m bratty Jessica Mah, I’m super picky with the companies I would want to deal with. Here are my thoughts and reasoning behind the companies I’ve talked with so far:
1) I’m picky with the companies I interview with, and I immediately look for a culture fit. If anything, culture fit is the FIRST thing I look for in a company. If I’m not going to be happy there, it’s not even worth a legit interview. What does culture mean? That deserves a blog post on its own, but it’s so crucial for a startup to be fast-moving, communicative, open-minded, friendly, and enthusiastic. If the company has high-walled cubicles and segregated “departments,” I have no interest in spending my summer there.
2) I don’t accept offers from companies who don’t thoroughly interview me. Sure, I think I’m a moderately smart person. However, I want to work for a company where people are brilliant. If the company doesn’t bother to test my knowledge and skills, it shows that they don’t take hiring seriously. With that said, if I get a job or internship offer from a company that doesn’t spend the time needed to test me for culture and knowledge fit, I don’t see the company as being good enough for me. Lesson: I only work for startups that make it difficult for me to get in. The next time you interview a “rockstar” prospective employee, keep this in mind.
3) Companies and employees need to give and take equally from each other. In my search for a summer internship, I’m not looking for a big name brand. I want to work for a company that lets me play around with my product management, business, and coding skills. I want to work for a company that wants me as much as I want them. One of the companies on my list offered to fly me out for a visit — that shows a lot of dedication. It proves to me that the company wants me as bad as I want it.
4) Do programming ninjas talk to the business people? In other words, do the complaints and desires of the users get seen by the people working on the product? Sounds like a silly question, but so many companies (United Airlines among them,) don’t have any connect between the customer support people and the executives who implement the changes. With that said, I like seeing companies where coders and business people are in everyday dialogue with each other. I love how Ning’s customer advocate team also works in product management — since they talk to customers everyday, they are more likely to know what changes should be made.
5) Money!!! As you’ve probably read before, compensation is not my #1 priority. However, it’s not something that can be ignored. Living in the Bay Area this summer costs a LOT of money. I’ll be paying $2000+ / month in various living costs that include food, apartment, transportation. Then I somehow need to pay off the $5,000 summer tuition bill that Stanford University is soon to send me. The startup scene is competitive — In most cases, I want these companies just as much as they want me. If they want me to join on board, a competitive offer is definitely in order.
6) Networking, colleagues, and mentors. Last, but not least, I look for any potential to grow my network. I’m looking for executives who are well connected in Silicon Valley and beyond. I’m looking for colleagues who are open and willing to help me just as much as I’m willing to help them. With all of the companies I’ve applied to so far, I’ve either personally met an executive there or had one of my friends refer me. Never underestimate the power of a personal network!
With that said, I’ll keep you updated with my internship hunt. Now you know the supposedly secret thoughts on what a self proclaimed teen entrepreneur looks for in an internship! Having this summer internship won’t slow me down from being an entrepreneur. It’s simply a way for me to further my learning — a way for me to figure out how fast-moving companies survive and grow.
By the time I graduate with my Bachelor’s degree in two years, I’ll be fully prepared to take on the world with a company of my own.
Jessica Mah is a 17 year old entrepreneur, blogger, and sophomore at early college, Bard College at Simon’s Rock.
She loves chatting with fellow students, readers, and entrepreneurs, so don’t hesitate to email her or message her on AIM! Feel free to subscribe to her blog or stalk her twitter.
April 23rd, 2008 at 5:15 pm
#1: Culture fit – Touche.
April 23rd, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Have you ever looked in to Zappos.com? Speaking as a software engineer in their employ, I think we’ve got a pretty killer company culture. As far as interviews go, we’re pretty rigorous. We’ve got a relatively small software department (30 or so people) and when an interviewee makes it past the phone screen we try to throw as many developers at them as we can fit into a day. After all is said and done, a thumbs down from a single developer equals a pass on the candidate. It’s not easy to hire a lot of people this way (and we are trying really hard to expand), but the system works. Everyone on the team is fantastic. One problem – we’re not in the Bay Area.. at least not any more. If you don’t mind interning around the Henderson / Las Vegas area, look us up! Or at least stop by for a tour of the offices if you’re ever in the neighborhood.
April 23rd, 2008 at 8:01 pm
There might be some opportunities available at Federated Media.
April 23rd, 2008 at 9:21 pm
What about Digg?
I get the sense that your personality would mesh with Kevin’s.
Though I think their office violates cubicle rule #1:
http://www.officesnapshots.com/wp-content/galleries/digg/diggtour37.jpg
Are those high walls?
April 24th, 2008 at 7:37 am
Won’t the interning affect your upcoming startup?
April 24th, 2008 at 8:00 am
“By the time I graduate with my Bachelor’s degree in two years, I’ll be fully prepared to take on the world with a company of my own.”
Yeah, maybe then I’ll go intern for you!
. Haha.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
I work with Six Apart, where I joined the company as the first employee, and it’s really exciting to see young people who really *get it* about entrepreneurship. I’m thrilled that we’re on your short list to consider, and regardless of what you choose, make sure you remember to value yourself and your contributions.
I will say — I’ve never seen a single company where the geeks and suits work more closely together than 6A. As someone who’s a little bit of both, I’m damn proud of that.
April 24th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Best of luck with your hunt. Hope you find a place that suits you!
April 24th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Interesting criteria. A few comments:
1. Few people realize how important culture fit is in knowledge work. Peter Drucker made a pretty convincing argument about that, I think it was in The Effective Executive.
2. Interesting perception about interviews. I’ve always done well on interviews, because I’m a naturally curious person + I’d do my homework so I knew what to ask about. Some folks, though, don’t get it and just want to get through it as fast as possible.
Interviews cut both ways, which is what you seem to be getting at. As far as difficulty to get in, I don’t know if that’s a good criterion for an internship, where it’s safe for an employer to take a few chances.
4. Yeah, in many places this is a HUGE problem. Top execs have to work constantly to make sure technical staff, designers and other creatives have a place at the decision-making table. Otherwise, marketing won’t long bother talking to product development.
This will end up being reflected in budgets, too. I still remember how ticked I was, working for a space contractor in the mid 80s, when the finance folks all got PCs on their desks with nary a word about when the engineers were getting ones (yeah, I know it’s hard to believe now).
6. Relationships are key. I got my first aero job with the help of someone I knew (just a little) & it was totally out of the blue – I had no idea how important that relationship would prove to be.
OTOH, big companies just seem to be magnets for folks who are very security-oriented and risk-averse. I haven’t found relationships with those sorts of people to be very valuable, career-wise. It would be great to find a big co. where it wasn’t like that, but does one exist?
April 27th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
2 years for a bachelor’s degree. Are they giving them away with cornflakes…
For example MIT is considering expanding the engineering degree to 5 years.
April 28th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Hi Jessica,
Bryan from ustream. Very interesting entry here. Regarding expensive living costs, I slashed my Stanford tuition bill by getting myself born to low income parents. It worked great for me and I recommend it for everyone!
Anyhow, looking forward to meeting you, no matter where you end up
April 28th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
I think you need to rethink the power dynamic here.
Certainly, you’re more valuable than the average 17 year old intern, but companies aren’t just selecting from the pool of 17 year olds… they’ve all got the money and potential to hire Stanford MBAs who have previously worked at successful startups.
You certainly have a huge head start, but to make sure you don’t fall behind, you need these internships–these real companies on your resume…. because one day you’ll be 27 and no one’s going to be impressed with your youth. They’re just going to want the hard facts of what you’ve accomplished… what products you’ve launched, how much business you’ve created, etc.
So, while it’s obvious that you have a lot to offer, saying that you’re picky implies that these companies need you more than you need them. Whether or not that’s the case, I don’t think that’s really the attitude you want to have–because then if you don’t fulfill expectations, you get the rep for being all talk.
Like I told you before, stop being 17 year old Jessica Mah and just be Jessica Mah, because the 17 year old part will fade away.
Don’t get me wrong… We’d love to have you at Path 101 as well, but not if you walk in with the kind of attitude that this thing is some kind of American Idol contest to get you.
May 1st, 2008 at 7:31 am
The peeps at PBWiki seems to be relatively awesome.