Why Google shuns college dropouts and poor students
Disclaimer: I am by no means saying that college dropouts or students with poor grades are dumb — I’m simply defending the hiring practices of Google and why their practices hold rational meaning to them.
There are so many little things about a prospective employee that can tell you, as the entrepreneur or hiring manager, whether or not the candidate is capable of being a reliable, long term, team player. For example, if I’m hiring a person, I’m going to look at how many schools this person went to and whether or not s/he graduated. I’m going to look at his/her smoking habits. I’m going to look at how long this person remained at his or her last few jobs. If I’m hiring manager for a company like Google, which receives thousands of resumes daily, I’ll quickly eliminate people who didn’t get a college degree, who smoke on a daily basis, and who weren’t able to keep a job for more than two years because each show a lack of commitment and/or a preference for short term over long term goals. There are so many brilliant people who don’t have college degrees, but it takes much longer to screen these people for commitment. I don’t think companies like Google care about what you learned in college so much as they care about your desire to stay with a company for more than a few months. They want employees who are able to work on projects that they aren’t necessarily in love with.
Many people critique Google for looking at college transcripts, but I’m going to defend them on this for several reasons:
1) High GPAs show the ability to do everything (besides business/computer science), and this is often a good measure for what happens in the workplace. This isn’t to say that dropouts are unable to prosper at a company like Google, but it’s an easier way to weed out the definite slackers.
2) A transcript allows Google to see what kind of courses you took. Did you only take computer science classes? Did you stick with your Jazz Ensemble for all four years, or did you join in and out depending on the semester? Are there any independent studies? All of these gives clues as to who the person is and what their commitment to their studies are. Maybe you took a class in philosophy which you had absolutely no interest in whatsoever, but were you able to get at least a B?
3) I hate to say it, but looking at college transcripts is an easy way to weed people out. If you’re running an amazing company, you’ll get thousands upon thousands of transcripts, and you can’t possibly take everyone. By weeding out college dropouts and those with poor grades, it’s much easier to focus on those who are likely to succeed in a large company.
As Seth Godin often says on his blog that resumes give a reason for companies to reject you, which is exactly why Google asks for them in the first place. It makes the hiring process much better for them! For those of you who don’t have a college degree or resume, find people to hire you based on something you did. Through keeping this blog, I’ve received many recruitment emails from technology companies. Although I’m yet to receive my college diploma, I’d feel reluctant to hire someone without a college diploma unless s/he has solid work experience to compensate. Even a college diploma is no longer enough to hire somebody. I’ll take this even further to say, if I receive an offer to work for a company without an interview and review of my past experiences, I would feel reluctant to join because it shows something about how smart my colleagues in this company may be.
The moral of this story: If you think rationally about it, Google has a reason to recruit people in the way that they do. Fewer people leave the company not just because they offer amazing job benefits, but because they attract people who are more likely to stick it out and see the good in whatever they’re working on. Most of the people I know at Yahoo are high school or college dropouts, and most of them are seriously contemplating leaving their job. While Yahoo is yet to better their job benefits, hiring committed people from the onset is often a significant part of the battle.
Jessica Mah is a 17 year old entrepreneur, blogger, and sophomore at early college, Bard College at Simon’s Rock.
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June 4th, 2008 at 7:52 am
You clearly don’t know what you are talking about. In the valley, NO ONE and I mean NO ONE rejects anyone with talent because they didn’t finish college. Some of the smartest people at google don’t have degrees because they were asked to join the company in their Jr. or Senior year.
In the valley.. “if one company doesn’t hire you, the competitor will”. Rejecting talent because they got a C in college algebra and dropped out to take a job at Intel or some high end place is an absolute ridiculous notion.
You need to get your head out of your ass Jessica, college isn’t everything.. at all.. in the technology industry, in my long career, it is mostly considered a non issue. As long as you have the talent and track record to back it up. Obviously a college drop out with no background to speak of will not be considered.
What’s funny is, a college dropout with academic papers, a track record, numerous projects under their belt, an expert in their field and high in talent is a better option than a PHD Computer Scientist from Carnegie Melon University with ZERO track record and background save for only what they did in college. College is only part of the picture, if you are one of those people who coasts through college and joins clubs and activities thinking they will help you in the end, you’re delusional. When I pick people to join my team, I skip past the education and go straight to their experience and prior projects/work experience. Then on to publications (if any) and then on to education. More times than not I’ve found High School seniors who have become Linux kernel hackers of amazing talent more qualified than a Masters in Computer Science from Brown University.
Before you comment on the technology industry how about you actually work in it. Maybe make something *OTHER* than a website or blog, and actual product, write actual code maybe? Learn electrical engineering? You’re a lost cause.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
NICE HJ! PUT HER IN HER PLACE!!!
Everyone thinks there so special these days becuase they have a way they can communicate with the world. The truth is, shes not really that special.
June 29th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Jessica you’re absolutely wrong. A college degree and transcipt does not prove whether one has enough momentum and qualification. You actually seem like you have zero experience in the work force and think that because you are on your way to finishing college that you are going to have a wonderful future. I know you’re type. You think you’re going to have everything under your belt with your wonderful degree and perhaps in a couple of years with your masters degree. I’ll keep up with your blog in hopes of watching you fail
November 18th, 2008 at 7:55 am
Wow these people are passionately against you on this one.
I can’t figure out why.
Maybe they are right about the valley… but seriously, do you people really believe that not being educated isn’t a handicap? If so the world has some bad news for you in the future…
November 24th, 2008 at 5:58 am
Ummm…..an “A” in your transcript at “insert name of generic community college” vs a “C” at MIT. Which do you choose?
Transcripts aren’t everything.
March 9th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
I just love your blog! Very nice post!